Hi, I'm going to use Breeze and Joomla 2.5 on my new site and have 2 questions:

The Breeze Readme says that there'an option to allow you to enable/disable loading of default Joomla JavaScript - I can't find the option in the tenplate manager?

And number two: I remember that Bolt pulled an H1 around the logo (which I didn't like)

Now Breeze seems to be pulling the title of my Site on all the sites:
<div id="logo"><a href="www.libro-electronico.es/" class="title">Kindle Libros Electronicos</a></div>

I'm not sure if I want to have the sitename on all my sites - is this a common pratice in Joomla Templates? (I'm asking because having the same title on all pages in terms of SEO is not good, but I have no idea what's the best practice regarding the css class called "title")

Thank you!

Hi Rikelele,

Good questions!

1) Sorry about that! That's a bug. We'll get it fixed soon and I'll let you know as soon as it is.

2) That's only for styling and it doesn't affect SEO in any way.

Kind regards,
Nick

Hi Nick,

thanks for your answer!
1) I'm using the blue version (just in case the bug is not in all colors). Also I'm not sure if it's a good idea to disable js...
2) Are you 100% sure? It's not like some kind of hidden text and I would be better of changing it into an img plus alt text or something?

Thank you and have a nice weekend!

Hi Rikelele,

You're welcome!

1) Disabling Javascript depends on whether or not you're using it. Joomla comes with MooTools, however many extensions don't use MooTools but rather load jQuery. If all your extensions don't need it or if they all load their own version of MooTools, then you can disable it in your template and save on page load time.

2) Yes :) No, it's not a hidden text.

Hope this helps!

Kind regards,
Nick

Hi Rikelele,

1) It's now fixed :) Please try the download at:
www.ostraining.com/resources/joomla/bonus/

Kind regards,
Nick

Hi Nick,

1)cool!! That was fast. I tried the green one and it worked. Is there any way to know which extensions need/use javascript?
2) I still don't get it... ;-) What is the class="title" in the logo for? Would you mind explaining, please?

Thank you!!

Hi Rikelele,

1) Great! We're glad it's working for you! No, not without testing to see if something doesn't work without it (assuming it's not in the documentation).

2) It's for styling it using CSS. It allows us to target just the logo using CSS since the logo has the class "title".

Hope this helps! :)

Kind regards,
Nick

Hi Nick,

thanks for the fast reply!
1) ok - I'll try - also it only makes sense if the site is faster and since it's still offline I'm not sure about this

2) ;-) yeah I was already browsing the template and coding classes and playing with firebug... But why does the logo have the class title (and not "logo") and why would I want to have my actual website title having around the logo on each site? I guess it's easy to understand - but not for me! ;-) sorry for keeping asking.

Best regards!

Hi Rikelele,

You're welcome! :)

2) That's just what the designer decided to name it. Logo would have been a better choice :) The website title would not show up there. Remember, it's just a CSS class.

Kind regards,
Nick

Hi Nick,

this was superfast!
Ok, so it's the designer who's getting me headaches ;-)

But, look, in the code there's actually my websites title near the logo:
<div id="logo"><a href="www.libro-electronico.es/" class="title">Kindle Libros Electronicos</a></div>

The one I wrote in the global configuration.

I believe it has to do with this php line:
<div id="logo"><a href="<?php echo JURI::base() ?>" class="title"><?php echo $app->getCfg('sitename'); ?></a></div>

But still can't figure out why the designer decided to do this, and am still afraid that it won't be a goog idea to have the exact same words on each page...

I don't know if I make any sense at all??
Thank you fr your pacience!

Hi Rikelele,

Ah, yes. That's there as a fallback for the logo (e.g. for visually impaired users). It won't negatively affect your SEO though. If you're really concerned, you could always take it out :)

Kind regards,
Nick

Hi Nick,

ok I understand, but shouldn't it be something like "logo Websitename" or something instead of the title which I believe will the visually impaired users have to read twice then?

So, I'm not sure what to do - if it will be worse having a logo without any text for the visually impaired (is this like having an img without alt tag?) or having it but repating the exat same words as the title tag...

What do you think/recommend?
What do I have to do to take it out?

Thank you so much Nick!

Hi Rikelele,

You're welcome!

It would only read it once to visually impaired users, since there isn't an alt tag.

If you want to take it out, you can just remove:although I wouldn't recommend it.

Kind regards,
Nick

Hi Nick

thanks for the reply. So this basically means that if I let it in, I shouldnt use as a title tag the combination of site title and site name (the one from global configuration). Because if I do this, the same text is twice there - right?

Thanks again for your pacience!

Hi Rikelele,

From where are you getting "Site Title" and "Site Name"? Those are usually used interchangeably.

Kind regards,
Nick

Hi I guess i am messing it uo ;-)

Ok I try to explain: In global configuration on the left you have to put the sitename.
This sitename is also the one which is around the logo for the visually impaired.
Like this:

<div id="logo"><a href="www.libro-electronico.es/" class="title">Ereader Reviews</a></div>

But on the other hand in global configuration > Seo Settings you can tell the website to use the page title and the Sitename (before or afterwards, to use your brandname or what ever). If I do so, I get this:
<title>This is my review title - Ereader reviews</title>

So I just guess if I don't want to have the "Ereader Review" (or what ever will be the brandname of my website) twice - one with the class title and one with the actual title tag - I have to disable this seo-option in global configuration...

So Nick, I think you have already spent too much time with me on this ;-) Maybe it just would have made more sense for me to could add an actual title/alt tag to the logo (just to the logo) which is not the sitename itself - but I guess this is too complicated...

HI rikelele,

I just read through all these posts when I took over forum duty from Nick. Sounds like you already know what to do. It's not the kind of problem that will shut your site down, but I understand your persistence.

Keep at it and good luck.
Cheers,
Ed

Hi Ed,

actually what I think would be best (having a seperate logo title for the logo - not the sitename itself - something like an alt tag) is something I don't know how to do!

So any suggestions are welcome!

But since you're right, this is not shutting down my site, so maybe I just have to let it go...

Hi Rikelele,

I would let this go for now. You seem to have a really good understanding of the code, but the structure of Joomla might not be clear yet. I think this will get clearer as you work more with it and we answer some of your other questions.

Ed