This is my first post and one of the reasons i got here :)
So, i got error in my web..
After You got in www.screenvision.lv and browse - just clicking on main menu tabs and changing languages - just try to do that for a while ( not long ) - web slows and in on moment You need to wait LOOOOONG time before it gets to load..
Now it started already NOT to load on index page.... Long time to wait to load menu.

I want to fix this - i dont know how .
All was working good ( not such slowing )..
I moved my website from subdirectory to root and after that isntalled one video player, but i deleted module of that as i tough that was reason why web slowed down.. but looks like NO.
p.s.
i tried to change caching - nothing - site only works, when caching is OFF or conservative, but in reality nothing changes .
I enabled cache system module - it is published all time - but nothing changed..
I changed httacces file code.. nothing.. all the same..

Please, help with this.

Thank You.

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Using FireFox as your browser. Get the addon called Yslow 3.0.9 and use it to analyze your page and find out what's slowing it down.

See if that helps and let us know.

Cheers,
Ed

EDIT:

Error was not loading for awhile but i found it, atleast, i think so.
I add image with it, where You can see it.
p.s.
However, i need big customization to fix first page loading faster, if that is possible.
But,at the moment - how to fix this error ?
Also, strange is that this error doesn't comes out every time on the same page also..



I done all the things as per Your post, however, after while i need to wait some while when page will load. It just stops when i click somewhere.. and i need to wait long.
I runed tests on site with Yslow, however, it didnt showed exactly what was that i was waiting for so long time to load...
Or i just don't know where to look for it.

Thank You and will wait for nexts steps to fix this problem.


Best,
Tom

Here is another possible error..

Please, let me know what i should do with this all.

When I look at the page, the only thing that seems to be slow is the Front Page Slide Show. If you turn that off, does the page load faster?

Ed

Hello

No, turning of slideshow doesnt help.
I attached pictures in previus post where is seen what takes to load very long time.
Did You look on that post... ?
I am 99 % sure i need to start with that, but.. that why i attached it.

p.s.
I have tried all simple things - to turn off all modules etc....

T

Hi Flyerlv

I ran your site through here: www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze

Do the same and you'll get some useful information. Here's what I found:

1) There's one very large JQuery file being loaded

2) At least six images are missing including these:
templates/agency/images/typo/star-brick.png
templates/agency/images/typo/camera-brick.png
templates/agency/images/rtl/s5_t_h3_gray.png
system/images/selector-arrow.png

3) You have a lot of images being loaded. This is a fairly slow template and you have quite a lot of extensions installed.

4) Do you have the cache turned on in both the Global Configuration and also in System > Plugins? That would help.

Thank You Steve for information.

I want to say that this template in original WORKS AND NOTHING slows in original version.
MENU DOESNT SLOWS and ALL is loading god.. within few seconds..

NOONE will sell template, where menu ( or what it is ) is loading 1-3 minutes....
I think its not worth to talk.

demo.joomlaxtc.com/agency/

I would not care if that would be 3-4 seconds...

So, its something i have done wrong.

What should i do with those missing images ?

Cache is turned ON in Global conf., unfortunately, in system plugins its not, because if i turn it on - my web goes without styling.

So, one more time.
Template has NOTHING TO DO with SLOW loading menu ( or.. as per firebug NET - some kind of images are loading super slow - they are missing in ).
Another, there is thousand sites, which have 100 - 1000 x more pictures and is loading the same.. So, i even DONT consider to tale out images and i think its NOT also even considerable.


I would like to hear what i should do as i have posted here some error what i found where some pictures are not loading , etc...
For example,
1. ) Go to file.. 123
2) find line 43
3) delete that and that..
4) etc...

Thanks a lot !

Best,
Tom

Hi Tom,

Please go to your plugin manager and disable your cache plugin and your JCH optimizing plugin as well as any other cache or optimization plugins.

Then clear your site's cache and your browser's cache.

Then go to plugin manager and disable one-by-one all the plugins that you have installed (not the core plugins though). Each time you disable one, check the front end to see if the site loads faster. One of the plugins will likely be the culprit.

Kind regards,
Nick

I tried to disable plugins, etc.. nothing..
I am ataching pictures ONE more time.

Its seen which files are loading slow..

Please, is here someone who understands why it is so that its loading so slow sometimes - it all goes alll time to the same files..


Regards,
T

another picture

and another picture

Is it me only who sees that all time the same files takes SOOO much time to loading...

thanks !


t

Trainers, masters can check demo.joomlaxtc.com/agency/

There is much more scripts on page than mine.. and loading 10 times faster thos ****/- files ..

And there is THIS GLITCH with GET-1
In this original template its loading but on mine template its not loading.

I tough this is some image but its not..

What is it and how i can put it back to load...

Also the same thing with those another files which is seen on my attachments - on original there is no such files beeing loaded.

If You can not help with such issues and only can help with some verrrrry basic things, please, just let me know.

I just need to found this thing why its loading so slow otherwise i am sure i am loosing people, who are trying to found information on web !

Thanks!

Tom

Hi Tom

Some thoughts ...

Don't trust the demo

Please remember that a demo can be deceiving. They wrote the template and know every little thing about how it works and how to optimize it.

Comparing to the demo: the ideal situation

Here's a useful test for you: whichloadsfaster.com/

I ran your site up against the demo of this template. On the first test, the demo was only about 15% faster. The second time, your site was 6% faster than the demo:
whichloadsfaster.com/?l=www.screenvision...oomlaxtc.com/agency/

However, I then ran the test again using simply screenvision.lv rather than www.screenvision.lv/index.php?lang=lv. This time the demo site was significantly faster:
whichloadsfaster.com/?l=www.screenvision...oomlaxtc.com/agency/

I wonder if something in your language configuration is slowing the site down.

Cache

Do you have Cache turned on both in Global Configuration and the Plugin Manager?

Hosting

Who are you hosted with? Is it cheap shared hosting or higher-end, more expensive hosting?

Joomla 2.5

This won't affect your speed, but make sure to update to Joomla 2.5

Slow is slow

I'm looking at what's being loaded by your site and even with a lot of experience, I'm thinking this is going to be slow.

I see 13 JS files, 13 CSS files, Widget Kit, K2, Slideshows, special fonts, Mootools, JQuery and at least three large images on the homepage.

I've seen Drupal sites deal with this by compressing all the files and adding multiple caching layers. Whole companies exist simply to speed up such heavy sites. But it's far from easy.

Rather than go down that route, I'd recommend slimming down the site.

Steve, there is only 1 answer to You.. as i am talking the same all over again..

THIS template is not the problem.
i have run it even with more than 2 times more plugins - NOTHING SLOWS !

IF I HAD NO EXPERIENCE, I WOULD BELIEVE YOU, BUT NOT THIS TIME.
If i will be wrong, ok..

Ofcourse, i tried Your mentioned things, those are typical thing what everyone says...


THIS SLOW THING HAPPENED AFTER I MOVED SITE FROM SUBDIRECTORY TO ROOT.

IF some image on first ( or whatever ) page can not be loaded, i can even wait many minutes.
When i reload images - all goes GOOD.

I see in firebug that MENU and BODY background is NOT loading.

When i wait for long time to load web.. i see those 2 things rotate as waiting in firebug.. and when page loads ALL - those 2 things STOPS loading immediately and shows error.

I need to find how to fix that menu background and body background images were loaded.


IF that will not fix the problem, i will go for the next ones, who shows slow loading, BUT, at the first - BACKGROUNDS.

So, how to fix them ?


Thanks for Your time to help me!

Best,
Tom

Hi Flyerlv

I'm sorry, I do now see that information in the first post.

Reading your first post there I don't think any of us realised that you were saying that was the most important issue.

Here's what I said in the previous post:

The best thing we can try to do is isolate the problem. Can you try turning off the language filter to see if that helps?

Also, I be honest ... I can't recreate the problem here. I've tested on Firefox, Chrome and Safari but can't see the missing images or slowness that you do.

Which browser(s) are you using when you get the error?

This is what i get...

Take a look in picture.

p.s.

Its not about NOT seeing images... ALL loads after while or on first time, but then starts to stop responding.
I checked that on safare, Explorer - pc.
Checked the same on MAC No, its not old mac, verryyy new ).
And no, all programs are new...
And no.. template is designed to work on safari.. mozila... etc...
And no.. It worked good !

Please, take a look.. when You load site, i am sure for 99 % You will see in FIREBUG that there is not loaded GET-1 files..
And as i am saying ( dont know which time ) - some times menu loads fast, then long.. and mainly all times i see this all to be affected by GET-1, .... bacground/-1 or..... images/menus-1

LETS FIX THIS ( 3 rd or .. which time i am saying this ? :) ) AND THEN lets see does it solved or not.

Thanks Steve for help !

Best,
Tom

Hi Tom

Thanks - that finally made sense with the Firebug screenshot. Here's what it pulls up for me:

It's trying to pull an image called:

No .png on the end, no .jpg, no .gif.

In the template CSS you need to fix #header (line 109) and enter a real image name,

Hello Steve.

I posted 5 TIMES BEFORE last picture to show what firebug is showing..
Its strange You saw only now what i am pointing.
Its reallyyy VERYYY Strange...

Ok, if You say header line 109, than here it is:

#header{background:<?php echo $params->header; ?> url('<?php echo $imgpath; ?>/backgrounds/<?php echo $params->headerimage; ?>') <?php echo $params->headerposition; ?>;}

Is this line really is for BOTH TWO LAST RED GET-1 pointed errors IN MY LAST PICTURE ?

Because i modified it, but al it does is header goes away..
But, please, let me know. i will try Your suggestion..

Thank You !

Best,
Tom

One more thing..
I have psoted about this also while ago on joomla forum and i posted there that this -1 maybe is not an image what its trying to pulling.
Its just error code for NOT POSSIBLE TO GET right IMAGE.


Steve, i suggest to look here:
demo.joomlaxtc.com/agency/
And click like in my attached image and chose view background image
and You will see its pulling out -1 - AND ALL IS JUST CLEAN AND WHITE WEB.
I checked source of web - there is nothing.... And now look on my web the same process - You will get 404 error

So, what is that -1 - i dont see that this is picture!!!?????

I really would like someone just someone to solve this.

Hope that will not take long time, because it just "got on me" and can not go further to make some better things, where i see that web starts to be nices with stylings...


Thanks and will wait for comments.

Regards,
Tomass

Hi
I shall try and answer this only because you are looking for a fast answer!
I think that you are looking for the fault in the wrong file.
The background image is a a CSS file.
I think that it occurs twice;
demo.joomlaxtc.com/agency/templates/agen...p=style1&file=style1
and
demo.joomlaxtc.com/agency/templates/agen...group=grid&file=grid

(It might only occur in the second one)
Anyway you are looking for :
body {
background: url("demo.joomlaxtc.com/agency/templates/agen...mages/backgrounds/-1") repeat scroll 0 0 transparent;
min-width: 1200px;
}

I would either replace the background image with a colour or just try commenting out the background url.

Hello Mark

Thank You for taking time here to look.
Yes, i found that also file group .....group=grid&file=grid files are loading slow and the same get-1.

I have different CSS files - which one i should look for ?

I found style1.css

I erased all and left only like this: body {background:-color:#FFFFFF;)

Is it right ? Because i don't see any changes - the same files loading slow and get-1 stays like not found still...

I am attaching just visual file which i edited ( in picture its NOT edited yet).

So, i assume i am doing something wrong and perhaps style1.css is not the one i should edit.

But, what is the name of Your second mentioned file ?

Than you !

Best,
Tom

Hi
Take care with the code.
body
{
background-color:#FFFFFF;
min-width: 1200px;
}
You have added a colon.
joomlaxtc.com/agency/templates/agency/XT...p=style1&file=style1
and
joomlaxtc.com/agency/templates/agency/XT...group=grid&file=grid

I do not know if it will solve your problem but your site has been trying to load an image which does not exist.
On my computer your site seems to load fine even after clicking around for several minutes.
Regards

Mark, thank You.
Ufortunately, i yet see GET-1 both to not load.
I changed body code to Your code in style1.css and grid file - nothing changed.
get-1 error is yet on site.

Perhaps, i am yet changing something different than i shoud... ?

Best,
Tom

This is just a small section of the css
<link rel="stylesheet" href="www.screenvision.lv/index.php?option=com...e=group&group=style1" type="text/css" />

The image/background/-1 occurs all over the place!! I do not understand why it is mentioned so many times. It even occurs in menu items.


#topbar{background:url(www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/ima...rounds/topbar-s1.png) repeat-x 0 0;height:10px;}

#headerwrap{background:#f8f8f8 url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/ima...ds/headerwrap-s1.png') repeat-x 0 72px;}

#header{background: url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/images/backgrounds/-1') bottom repeat-x;}

#logowrap{background:#f8f8f8;width:290px;margin:0 auto;padding:25px 0 0 0;}

#logo{background:url(www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/ima...o_screenvision_1.png) no-repeat 0 0;height:79px;width:193px;margin:0 50px;}

#topwrap{border-top: 4px solid #a3171f;background:#232323 url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/images/backgrounds/-1') bottom repeat-x;}

#top{background: url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/images/backgrounds/-1') ;}

#insetwrap{background:#030303 url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/ima...nds/insetwrap-s1.png') repeat;}

#inset{background:#030303 url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/ima...nds/insetwrap-s1.png') ;}

#messagewrap{background:#030303 url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/ima...nds/insetwrap-s1.png') repeat;}

#message{background:#030303 url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/ima...nds/insetwrap-s1.png') ;}

#contentwrap{background:#f8f8f8 url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/ima...s/contentwrap-s1.png') repeat-x top left;}

#content{background:#ffffff url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/images/backgrounds/-1') ;}

#shadow-left{background:url(www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/ima...unds/shadow-left.png) no-repeat 0 0;}

#shadow-right{background:url(www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/ima...nds/shadow-right.png) no-repeat 0 0;}

#breadsearchwrap{background:#444 url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/images/backgrounds/-1') bottom repeat-x;}

#breadsearch{background:transparent url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/images/backgrounds/-1') ;}

/*

---

*/

/* L 01 - Region 1

/*

---

*/

#region1wrap{background:#fff url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/images/backgrounds/-1') bottom repeat-x;border-right:4px solid #a3171f;}

#region1{background:transparent url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/images/backgrounds/-1') ;}

/*

---

*/

Mark, why on this demo template this -1 they have totallly clean webpage:
demo.joomlaxtc.com/agency/templates/agen...mages/backgrounds/-1

Its not image.. its not html file..

Perhaps something has missed..
If -1 goes to white in that template, then why in my template its not giving white page but error?


Thank You.

T

I just do not know the answer to that, is it hosted on the same server? Different hosting companies have different settings which could make the difference.
My guess is that it should be something like /images/backgrounds/s-1.png or /images/background-1.png Have a look inside the background folder and see what images are in there.
Sorry that I can not solve the problem or explain why the statement occurs so many times .
I am sure that somebody else will solve it.

You tried loading this image by typing it directly into the address bar of your browser.

www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/images/backgrounds/-1

and you found that there is nothing there.

As Steve and Mark pointed out, in your css file in the #header section it says

#header
{background: url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/images/backgrounds/-1') bottom repeat-x;}

Your css style sheet is calling for a file that does not exist because the url in the background parameter is wrong.

As Mark pointed out, This same mistake is repeated in several places in your css style sheet, for example it appears again here.

#topwrap
{border-top: 4px solid #a3171f;
background:#232323 url('www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/images/backgrounds/-1') bottom repeat-x;}

Before you will be able to solve your problem you will need to fix every instance of this error in your css file. The correct form for the url in the background is
www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/images/backgrouns/imaage_name.png

Every image that is called has to have a complete name with an extension like .jpg, .png, .gif, or other legal image extenstion. -1 does not have a legal file name so it is not going to show but your browser will continue to try to access it, but it will never find it.

If there is any extension causing the slowdown, you will not be able to tell until you correct all the background image links.

Ed

Dear Ed

I know all this...

However, here is proof, that it doesnt need to have to have png gif etc etc etc... to have...

demo.joomlaxtc.com/agency/templates/agen...mages/backgrounds/-1

This is something different...

Regards,
Tomass

This is what I think could be happening. I could be wrong. There are many things I don't know and this could be a new syntax I'm not familiar with.

Please try something for me. Go to the link you provided and view the page. Then right click on the page and view the source. You will see there is no html on the page to generate an image or even a background color.

What is different is that their server handles that error message without redirecting you to an error page as hostgator does.

Try this on your server - go here an view the page source
www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/images/backgrounds/-1

Try this on their server. - go here and view the page source
demo.joomlaxtc.com/agency/templates/agen...mages/backgrounds/-1

Look at this page, where there is a picture, and see the difference.
www.screenvision.lv/templates/agency/ima...nds/insetwrap-s1.png'

I would think that if the link ending in -1 were a good link, it would produce the same thing as the third example ending with a valid file name.

So I am supposing, when the browser tries to get the image on their server, it doesn't have to load anything. On your server it has to take the time to parse an entire page and all its dependencies. And it has to do it for every time that image is called on the page and can't load, and that eats up a lot time.

Now, using firefox, open their demo page at
demo.joomlaxtc.com/
Right click on the background and choose inspect element.
Find the url link in the style page and mouse over it.

You will get the same message that you see in the attached image, "Failed to load URL". They are having the same problem you are, they solved it in a different way.

If you think their link is correct, please contact joomlaxtc and find out how they are making a link like that work. It's a technique I don't know, but would be glad to learn what it is all about.

Regards,
Ed

Unfortunately i havent got any answer yet from joomlaxtc.com ... :(

This all just makes me crazy as i can not get the right person who could be good at php and understanding code.. :(

Till i and noone else hasnt found the problem, i am thinking to try to make very clean template for my webpage , but would like to have mainly the same as i have now - logo is where it is.. menu is where it is.. left and right columns is where they are now.. etc....

WHAT YOU SUGGEST ?

Otherwise.. seeing that i can not find everyone to fix.. i am not feeling too good.. because all jobs stays and i can not go further if i know that webpage is not showing menu and so much slowing....

Thank You !

Regards,
Tomass

Hi
I am not sure that anybody can tell you the full extent of your problem but it is clear that as everybody has said above your server is trying to load multiple images which do not exist. When that is sorted out there may be further problems or it might solve everything for you.
I would suggest that you try one of the default templates that comes with joomla and see if that speeds things up. A clean simple template should always load faster than a complicated one.
The template on the demo installation exhibits the same fault as yours does - it has taught me to be very careful when buying a template!
Regards

Make a copy of the site in a new directory, make a copy of the data base, so the test site runs independently in a new directory. Experiment with different templates there, not on your live site.

On your test site, turn on error messages by going to Global configuration on the System tab and set Debug System to Yes. You will see all the errors and you can start debugging.

Try different templates on your test site and see which one gives you the fewest errors and works the fastest. When you're satisfied, make the test site live.

You should also review or css and html classes before you do that so you'll be able to better understand the messages.


Cheers,
Ed

You should probably read this first since it deals directly with your problem. Having the image unavailable is the same as having the src blank.

www.nczonline.net/blog/2009/11/30/empty-...n-destroy-your-site/

If you really want to optimize your site, you should read this information.

developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html

Also get the Yslow add-on for your firefox browser so you can analyze your page. Then learn to make your changes.

Cheers,
Ed




Hope this helps you.

Ed

Hello

Ok, i made copy of my present webpage to new directory.
I can make also copy of Database...
But - how i link my COPIED database with "joomla test site which is in the new directory" ?

Regards,
T

Ok, i managed all for site to work in subdirectory.

Excellent! Now do all your experimenting on the test site. You might even want to make more than one test site so you can compare different setups to see which works best.

When you get the test site to work the way you want, you can use the same sort of process to move it to your main directory.

Cheers,
Ed